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side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is that they still have to persuade people that governor romney is the guy they should vote for. at the national level, that means they need to fix whatever has gone so wrong with their campaign message and they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s. almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower, even, than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think that mitt romney cares about the needs and problems of people like them. some of mr. romney's numbers are just shockingly bad. i mean double check. shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%. in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to get themselves to
president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when you count only voters who are psychotically engaged. folks, i have got my own source of polls, conservative blogger dean chambers who analyzed these polls favoring obama and then reached the scientific conclusion that they just didn't look right. chambers' work throws all polls into doubt now. even the internal ones i have taken of myself. i mean, the results say i'm not that excited about mitt romney, but as a conservative i feel like i should love him. maybe the sample size is too small or maybe i checked the wrong box and i'm actually latino, you know? >> it's not a good sign just six weeks from election day to bash the polls. >>> the first p
. right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s, almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%
. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. they can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not sure which. they impute all of this power to him. it's dark power. it's evil power. because they can't deal with the fact that he had a plan, he implemented the plan. he didn't get everything he wanted but things are better. for jack welch to take this here, it's a cruel political joke. talk about normal for someone like jack welch to be taking to twitter and then dumping down on it in interviews and everything else. >> e.j., as joan just said, he doubled down. he w
, right. well, one, you a situation where, you know, mitt romney apparently has all these memorized zingers that he's going to unleash on the president tomorrow, but then, what you don't hear folks talk about is, once the zinger has been thrown out there, then what? so he lays out and says energy independence, well when the follow-up question comes, what's the there there, what are the specifics? paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risk
a decision about whether they were going to attack mitt romney as someone you can't trust or as a hard right ideal log, someone who is bound up with the republican party. and they chose the latter. going at him as an out of touch guy and he aided them as doubling down on everybody. reinforced that. now, he's shaking the etch a sketch and decided screw it, i'm going to go for whatever it is. and they have to pick a new way of attacking him. they picked it today. let's listen to more about what president obama said about him today >> who ever it was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for the last year. we don't want what he has been selling over the last year. he may dance around his positions and may do a tap dance and a two step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. [ applause ] >> alex wagner please, help me get the image of mitt romney dancing out of my mind. >> i will say this. there has been a flush of him since the debate. but i don't know how excited the conservative base is going to be in the long run as we unpack the positi
? that is right. president obama. and we have breaking news from mitt romney who just appeared on fox news and tried to rewrite this comments about 47% of america. >> a new mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a$5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wro
out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strategy in pennsylvania suffered a big loss in court today. joy reid will join me on that. by bright eyes you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. it will be a dollar saved by somebody who switched to esurance. like, dollar karma. being online, esurance saves dollars that come back as more dollars for you. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. esurance. now backed by allstate. boproductivity up, costs down, thtime to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> i could have shown mitt romney months ago how to win tomorrow's debate. but i waited until tonight because i know it's way too late to try to teach mitt romney new lines for the big event.
phenomenally well. mitt romney is right, his class -- it's something that warren buffett -- i love the warren buffett likes to say. yes, there is a class war in america, and my class is winning, so that's true. so why are these guys who are winning so mad? i think there are a couple of reasons. the first is i think we tend to overlook how isolated they are from everybody else. they really just don't see. that amount of money means you live, especially in this globalized economy, in a completely different universe, and, you know, in this sort of dress down age, in this very sort of culturally democratic age, i think we sometimes overlook really how big that gap is and, you know, occasionally when we come across it, we're all sort of startled. i think that's been a problem for mitt romney when he sort of mentions the things which are everyday in his life. i'll bet you $10,000 for this, of course i have an elevator in my house for my cars. suddenly we're all startled because we understand they live in a totally different world. i think the second thing, and i do think this is a key theme in the
their latest poll yesterday and found in the state of ohio it's president obama leading mitt romney right now by nine points. the other big home state newspaper poll was from the des moines register. according to that poll, the des moines register poll in iowa, president obama is leading by four points. there are a ton of national tracking polls out today. and spoiler alert, they all show president obama ahead by a few points. in terms of the senate races, that same columbus poll out of ohio that shows president obama ahead it shows sherrod brown leading by ten poin ing to tza warren and scot brown debate in massachusetts, we'll beki abthata moment, there's a new poll out today in acttt elet enr scott brown by two. in pennsylvania, a newspaper poll released over the weekend put the democrat in that race bob casey ahead of his republican challenger by eight points. as mitt romney's, shall we say, second place standing starts to look like more and more of a permanent residence as it seems like a long shot for winning the presidency, the down ticket effect of that is starting to become a bigger
. >> softer mitt romney and don't hear outcries from the conservative right. they want to win. >> i've been so struck about how muted the response has been, not just after the debate, but even going back to where governor romney told nbc's ron allen that his state health care plan showed his empathy. that's the kind of thing that would typically drive conservatives crazy who don't believe using government is a way of showing empathy. andrea i was struck and i'm sure you were too, how many times did romney say that he was not trying to push some big tax cut plan. i mean, jack kemp must be spinning in his grave, the orthodox in the republican party has been that big tax cuts, especially for high earners, lead to economic growth. you saw romney try to move away from that view and i think it's because the obama campaign has defined the romney tax cut plan as a budget buster and as largely as a [ inaudible ] to the rich. romney is trying to move away from that and focus on what he will do for the middle class. but you're talking about not just that, andrea, but also talking about dodd/frank and the
at the camera, deliver to people in the living room. president obama's looking off. mitt romney did it the right way. >> right way. >> he looked at the camera, looks you in the eye, tells you what he thinks. >> he wasn't being nice. >> no. >> the thing that is obama -- i hate to say, the politics of niceness, you're admitting your opponent has legitimate points. . it's not great in an american society where stylistic connection means you're willing to defend your point with a pointed passion but also to argue with the other guy. mitt romney was there saying i'm give nothing quarter. he admitted obama did something halfway right the rest of the time he was condescending. i have five sons, you might as well be the sixth, i'm going to tell you what you're doing wrong. there was no opposition, quite disturbing. >> governor romney seized moment to speak to independent swing voters in the swing states time after time. you can tell it was practiced, prepared, i know what this debate's. this will be the decisive part of the electorate. each time he spoke to that, those who can still be swayed, as my fri
sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney has dismissed as free-loaders, moochers, takers. people, especially veteran families, people retired on social security, regular americans, that is, don't like being dismissed that way, injury added by insult. i'm joined by chuck todd and howard fineman with "the huffington post." the latest poll shows among likely voters the president leads 49% to 46% for romney. that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> well, first of all, the more important number has always been the president sitting at 49% or 50%. i would go through his job approval
the fight to romney in front of 67 million people two nights ago -- >> right now you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas. i think most americans would say that doesn't make sense. >> jim, let's -- we've gone on a lot of topics there. it's going to take a minute to go from medicaid -- >> go ahead. >> you said you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is not the case. >> on the stump yesterday in front of a crowd of 30,000 people in madison, obama seemed to have his swagger back. >> the guy on stage last night, he said, he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. never heard of them. and he said, if that's true, he must need a new accountant. so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. >> not wasting time, his campaign has doubled down with a new ad calling mit
of themselves. >> you look at this analytical, only three or four breaks, romney would be ahead right now, breaks going to obama's side. the romney performance overseas when he blew that thing with cameron. the masterful performance by bill clinton where he reset the clock on the economy. of course, this 47%. these breaks have been going toward obama, haven't they? i mean, i can't think the last time romney got a break. >> reporter: no, really not since -- you have to go back, i would say, to may or june at the earliest to come up with a time where you feel like romney was controlling the narrative, controlling the tempo of this campaign. and then, you're right, didn't catch a break. it starts with the health care ruling at the end of june that somehow goes obama's way and then it marched through july, he takes a week off. a lot of people question that. then he ends up doing this overseas trip, as you point out. they blew their convention. blew an opportunity there. one thing about romney is he's had more experience going into a big debate behind than any other candidate at this point in
of the same. >> thank you. >> what we'll see in the next two debates. >> right. >> but certainly having romney commit himself to be in favor of regulation, not to cut taxes for the top, these are steps in the right direction if he actually lives by them. >> not just that, but the president was able to capitalize the next day. there were ads the next day using those lies. it's like a transcript. we read these things. when we read them we think lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. >> there were a few moments. there are some people who say this is strategic. one of the thing that's interesting in understanding the debate is the continuity of it. we keep being surprised by who barack obama is when he's just been the same the whole time. every time he doesn't fight hard enough. people are like, why isn't he fighting? watch this tape that our producers put together of critiques of barack obama's debate performance in the past. this is not last night's debate. take a look. >> a lot of the pundants are saying this was not a very strong performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the
credentials. back at a meeting this february. the right wing romney is no more. according to what happened this wednesday night. this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do that. he stayed right through the summer and masterfully, wednesday, started to go i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, i'm for education and all this good stuff. >> i think part of that, you're right, in your analysis there. that's what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had shoring up to do with their base. >> can you pull it off? can you make that switcharoo in september. >>
sullivan. i think he's right on in all his points and i agree with you. romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done
statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. congratulations. >> that was, i hate to say it, charming. >> yeah. >> james. >> yeah. >> where did that come from? >> it came from mitt romney. he's rather notorious for telling jokes that go over like lead balloons. this did not. he finally found his groove as far as a comedian is concerned. at least for that moment. >> let's talk about the president. he was the one i think that was the base of most consternation. you know, he was looking down a lot. did he know and what did you think about the fact of that split screen? there we are watching it now. we never didn't see the split screen it see
to be prodded to rebut romney's defense on his tax plan wednesday night. yesterday he went right after romney. >> do you challenge what the governor just said about his own plan? >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election he is saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. when i got on the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night who looked like mitt romney said he didn't know anything about that. >> and though the president's face did some talking on wednesday night when romney unveiled this line, in fact, watch the president's facial expression in the split screen. i'm sure a lot of you thought the same thing i did, that he was going to come up with something. he didn't. but watch this. watch his facial expression carefully. >> you said you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas. look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no
argument that it is a constitutionalal right addressed around the edges. what the romney campaign believes and what mitt romney believes is that the future of the country depends on the economy, depends on getting this deficit under control and really starting to get america growing again. more americans are unemployed today than when barack obama took office. whose fault is that? you raised good points but i am comfortable with governor romney's position. >> if you are giving advice your advice would be what? >> i won hispanics in colorado in my second race. i think governor romney's focus on the economy are hispanic americans are impacted perhaps even more than the rest by this softer economy. and so i would do what governor romney has been doing and that is continue to address the base issues. this is an election that has to look at how well we have done over the last four years. president obama was elected with this hope and this vision for change. and we have seen change actually for the worst. i think it is very fair to look at his record and say here is what he said four years ago a
candidate's position on women's rights. >> dear mitt romney, while you're here in colorado, i hope you'll answer a few questions. when you say -- >> planned parent head, going to get rid of that. >> did young how important it was to women? why do you want to put an end to save legal abortion? i'll be watching you for answers. >> joining me now is plan t parenthood president cecile richards. how effective has this campaign that you've launched been and what kind of support questions that you're seeing from people out there who are curious exactly about where mitt romney stands or not when it comes to positions of planned parenthood? >> well, great to be on, thomas. thanks for having me. we've had thousands of women and men write in questions that they they'd like to have mr. romney answer and inn the ad really said it. the questions we're getting is mitt romney has said he's going to overturn roe versus wade, get rid of planned parenthood and end the national family program that provides cancer screenings to women every year. this is the question on women's mind, and men's, what is his
romney is a liar. it's hard to watch him lie and not be countered. that's the tough thing. >> all right. let's talk about this specifically because as you said, 47% not brought up, bain not brought up, mitt romney's taxes not brought up. it seemed as though mitt romney was prepared to answer some of these tough questions because i noticed when he walked up to the podium, it looked like he threw a hankey to look to keep his powder dry. i want to show everybody, he reaches into his pocket and throws something onto the podium. no one wants to have the richard nixon moment, but he did keep his powder dry the whole time do. you think somebody inside the obama camp decided the president should not go on the attack. just left romney come at him. and let him get exhausted. >> we just heard that sound byte from david axelrod. stating the record is not going on the attack. stating the record about where we were and where we are and where we are going is not an attack. last night we saw an american businessman tell the american people he really wants the job. we felt it. and whether you like it or
's absolutely right. these numbers not only don't add up, but if romney is ever forced to specify any of these deductions, what about home interest mortgage, what about state and local taxes? i mean, that would be a massive body blow to the middle class families of this country. >> let me say i'm very glad you played that clip from president bush for the following reason. we talk about something where i work at the center on budget called the tax reform trap. and here's how it goes. a candidate says i'm going to lower the tax rates but i'm going to broaden the tax base. what you get is lower rates, you get a lot of the former, you get very little of the latter. because like bob says, once you start going into how you're going to broaden the base, then it's don't look at me, look at the other guy. so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush s
happen. a real confidence booster, isn't it? romney is right to feel uneasy about pennsylvania. a republican pollster in the state told reporters why romney is in such a bad position with pennsylvania voters. >> i think the bain capital ads that the president has run and the super pacs have run have stopped some of mitt romney's growth in the western part of the state with working class voters. >> romney isn't getting much support from those closest to him either. anonymous friends of the campaign associates savaged the candidate in politico. louie candidate. doesn't know the the room. not a great politician. and he's missing the normal guy gene. >> "i think romney is in trouble. and he has got to win this debate. i don't think it can be well, it was a draw and -- >> wait a minute, wait a minute. where did you get that from? what do you mean romney's in trouble? because of this poll manipulation crap? >> let me just say something. the criticism of the polls is craziness. i did some research on this today, which is more than you've done. >> some righties are losing their nerve.
of cliche in right wing circles and ones in which romney offered inside the safety and conservative bubble and it was leaked out. in the song, 10 crack commandments biggie smalls offered a set of rules for drug dealers who want to avoid perils. >> never get high on your own supply. >> same with political strategists. don't start believing that everyone out there in the voting booth is seeing the world the way you do. the gop has i think lost sight of this simple wisdom. they are now smoking what they're dealing. it's a big part of why those poll numbers look the way they do and a good reminder of the dysfunction and incompetence that happen when people in charge only listen to themselves. i'm going to talk to my panel about the consequences of living inside the conservative bubble when we get back. maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. sven's home
. >> we'll see if he's right. but what chris christie says is right as predicted if you're mitt romney. donors are nervous, and perhaps in christie's mind his assertion was an atelt to boost the morral of romney's supporters. the bottom line, if christie's aspirations do not come true, romney has bigger problems. people who pay no federal tacks and get government help, were, quote, inarticulate. >> we've had some missteps but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear and we're giving people a really clear choice. >> but when ryan was asked by fox's chris wallace whether the media is, quote, carrying water for barack obama, ryan took the bait and ryan wasn't the only one who thinks the media is preparing to game him a raw deal. >> i think it kind of goes without saying there is definitely a media bias. >> i think most media are left of center and therefore they want a left of center versus a conservative president like mom. >> it's going to be ups and downs and we know the media is anxious to write the romney/ryan comeback story. >> everybody is playing. we know some of the ques
conservative. the right wing romney from the primary fight is no more. this week the etch-a-sketch came alove the former governor championed centrist principles and got away with it. he keeps this act up. michael steele is a former rare of the rnc as well as an msnbc political analyst and cynthia tucker is a syndicated columnist. thank you. michael, there's on old tradition in politics, you go to your fringe or hard left or hard right to win the primaries and caucuses and then you start to move slowly so boy labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do it like that. he stayed right all the way through the summer and maybe masterfully wednesday decided to go with i'm for the 100%. i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, for all this education, all this good stuff. >> i think part of that -- you're right in your anam sis, that's exactly what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had some shoring up to do with their base. >> can he pull it off? can you make that kind of switcheroo in september? >> i th
of women's rights, bain, abortion, romney's jobs record in massachusetts even as he kept bringing up massachusetts over and over. chris, what did you think? >> well, this tonight wasn't an msnbc debate, was it? it just wasn't. it had none of the things you mentioned. it didn't mention all of the key fighting points of this campaign. and certainly there was no bobby kennedy in the green room before barack obama came out tonight. i don't know what he was doing there. he had his head down. he was enduring rather than fighting. romney came out with a campaign. he was going to be aggressive. nothing to do with the words he spoke. here's my question for obama. i know he likes to say he doesn't watch cable television, but maybe he should start. i don't know how he let romney get away with the crap he throughout tonight about social security. he said emergency room. the latest thing we got from romney because he said so, you know what i want to do with people when they're poor, shove them in the emergency room? why didn't obama say that? you talk about social security and medicare people? th
the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? >> that's right. mitt romney has shown us that the 47% can actually be the 1% -- or rather the 1% can be the 47%. when you look at how he has been able to shelter tens of millions of dollars in income, he probably has an interest right now in 12 different entities that are worth somewhere in the range of $30 million in cayman islands and other overseas -- >> bermuda, switzerland. >> and elsewhere. and you look at why these things are ripping taxpayers off to the tune of about $100 billion a year. it's because the rules on passive income like dividend and interest are different. the rules on deductions are totally different. the rules on unrelated business expenses where he has a lot -- some people say between somewhere between $30 million and $100 million in his i.r.a. which has shelters from taxes and you have to use qis, qualified intervenors for the irs. the irs can't even get basic information about the investment. you have all these questions about how did he have $3 million in foreign income in the year 2009 and paid i believe it was 20
romney would be a great used car salesman, but the policies he's articulating will get us right back into the mess that president obama has been working so hard to dig us out of. >> i suspect many walked away last night feeling a bit confused, maybe a bit bored by the technical language and lack of passion. and they are possibly asking the question around the world that many are, which is why can't these guys get together to hammer out a fiscal solution? because actually they were talking about the details, they didn't seem to be so incredibly so far apart on many of the issues. >> were they? >> i was just thinking just now it is too bad steve israel couldn't go out with an obama mask and substitute for the president. there are a lot of points you are making last night that the president missed. >> what was the strategy? play it safe? >> i'm not sure, but i think a couple things were going on. after the democratic convention a lot of people were saying the president should have taken the bill clinton strategy and really laid out very carefully in a meticulous way the holes in the rom
romney can give all of these voters an excuse to vote for him, right? >> yeah, we talked about this yesterday on the show. if he can go in -- that's why i worry about all this talk about zingers, just stylistically. don't be someone you're not. don't come in with canned jokes. be who you are, which is the line he delivered, i thought, well in his convention speech where he said, i can't heal the earth. i'm not going to part the seas, whatever he said. i just want to help you and your family. i'm not fancy, i'm not exciting. i want this job because i can do a better job healing the economy, not the earth, healing the economy than he has done for the last 3 1/2 years. if he can do that, be confident, don't try to be slick or funny, it's not who you are, just be mitt romney, he'll have a good night. >> i think he'll have a good night. i'll tell you this also, mark mckinnon. we're going to hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he'll bring that up. i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by
as a sledgehammer, right? today the national chairman of the romney campaign got even less subtle than newt. hold on. that's coming up. >>> nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell interviewed a lot of scary people and dictators and ego maniacs over the years and over the years from doing that, she has endured these scary people and dictators and ego maniacs saying crazy things to her in close proximity. but also she has endured worse. >> when rice tried to challenge sudan's president omar al bashir, his security aides -- the security men tried to stop us from covering a photo opportunity. >> no. no. no. we don't let cameras into -- oh! >> reporter: when i asked sudan's president a question -- can you tell us why the government is still supporting the militias? they grabbed me from behind and dragged me out. >> when things like this happen to andrea mitchell because she is such a pro, she is totally zen through the whole thing. she does not crack up, doesn't yell at people. she doesn't let her jaw drop to the floor. he doesn't do a loony tunes style split take. andrea mitchell maint
for mitt romney, and it's generally not helpful for the level of intellect on our national discourse right now. >> you know, anne, i've been talking to people on both sides of this thing. let's clear it up right now. because this whole conspiracy, in my experience, in the past 24 hours, has been met with a collective eye roll from people who are democrats and republicans. is there any way the obama administration could actually have cooked up these numbers? >> uh, in a short answer, i would say no. i think the last president who was accused of, and where there was evidence that he tried to mess with the bureau of labor statistics was richard nixon. since then, it is a bureau full of professionals and i think that jonathan is exactly right. we would know if there was some funny business going on there. not to mention that if they were going to cook the books, wouldn't they have done it months ago when it would have more of an impact, and wouldn't they have said the unemployment rate is, i don't know, 4%. it seems extremely far fetched. i would be shocked if we eventually discovered they had
five list of foreclosures in this country right now. i want to play something that governor romney said about foreclosures, and i want to get your reaction on the other side of the break and we'll talk about how this might be playing in nevada. take a listen. >> don't try and stop the foreclosure process. let it run its course and hit the bottom. >> ed, how much of a problem is that for governor romney in nevada? or have folks forgotten about it? >> no, i think those are the types of comments that when taken out of context or when people don't have the full context, people say, wait a minute. this is state that house suffered unlike any other. it adds to that narrative that democrats have enjoyed building this year, that this is a man who doesn't understand. in that kind of state, you have to somehow empathize with people suffering there and not necessarily suggest it could get worse. it's similar to how his comments on, you know, the bankruptcy of general motors have been used in ohio and in michigan against him and how, you know, other comments have certainly -- you know w that 47% co
caught on tape, some on the right said there was an amen moment and they were happy governor romney said it. now he says that the remarks were wrong. where do you stand? do you believe him now, or were you one of the ones that applauded the initial comment? >> i think you got to give him credit. he owned up to it and he apologized for it and took it back. i think he's right when you're on the campaign and making literally thousands of stops over the course of 18 months and two years, by the rule of statistics you say stuff that is wrong. look at what obama said in 2008 when he said people clinged to their guns and religious. that was offensive to tens of millions aacross the country. he tried to take it back. you have to give romney some credit for owning up to it and taking it back. >> some of the analysis is he admitted these remarks are wrong because he needs to move away from the far right. there were people like eric erickson who said that these remarks, the initial remarks were spot-on. he's completely moved aawway fr the remarks saying they were not just inartful but wrong. my spe
, a leopard sure can try. mitt romney is sure going to try. but you're right, i mean, the polls show it. he has a steep hill to climb in terms of changing the narrative, in term of bringing people to his side, in term of maybe tightening the polls with the president. when you have the 47% video out there, when you have other comments out there such as, i'm not very concerned about poor people or i like firing -- i like being able to fire people who provide services to me, it sets up this image of a person who really is not like us. the us -- by the us i mean, not just the 47%, but the 99% of the folks who don't get to live in the way mitt romney has been able to live as a very wealthy man. again, there's nothing wrong with being a very wealthy man. there is something wrong about a person running for the president of the united states who the voters feel like they can't relate to me and he can't relate to my problems, so how is he going to be able to solve them? >> john, isn't the president actually in the more vulnerable position in terms of behavior and demeanor? because the president has
. was mr. romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycle" and joy reid, managing eder to of t
'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor
effective that apology to the 47% is going to be. >> right. michelle, another number mitt romney is not fond of talking about is 7.8%, the new unemployment figure. here is how he spun that into bad news earlier today. listen to this. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. if you just drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics so it looks like unemployment is getting better. >> i have never seen a man lie with such skill. i mean, that number had been in decline until today. it's the highest it's been since may 2010, and it hasn't been higher since august 2009, and yet he goes out there and he says something that is a blatant untruth. i mean, he's apologized last night for making a mistake or apologized for something on the 47% and then today back to his old ways. here is another lie. >> well, it's necessary. the conventional wisdom has been if the unemployment rate dropped below 8%, then obama was pretty much in the cat bird seat and now it has, and the republicans have
playbook, blame the media. over on fox news, they know different, right? right? >> why are you and romney losing at this race? >> we're going to win this race. given that, we're going to win this race. >> but you are not at this point. you're losing. >> here's what we're saying. >> fox news to paul ryan, quote, you're losing. ouch. when they turn to the ryan/romney economic plan which would somehow reduce the deficit or popular deductions. >> you're the master of the budget. so briefly let's go through the plan. the obama plan says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show, if you for tur statics enough, they will confess enough to what you want them to say. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm not talking about the cut. we'll get to the deductions. but the cut in the tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take awa
suit together, and that to me ishurdle right now for romney, the idea is he in touch with the average american. i think that's why he's stuck in the mid-40s. >> not everything he's said has been malignant but his cavalier way of saying let's bet $10,000 to gov perry or referring to everybody who might not have health insurance and need emergency care as living in an apartment. it's a view as if it's all urban people. it's not evil but it's a lack of perspective about life in the main american experience, howard. >> well, yes, and the obama campaign very shrewdly and systematically from the beginning, as chuck said, has focused on what they were convinced was romney's big weakness, and it's turned out to be just that. chuck mentioned taxes. you mentioned the $10,000 bet. also bain capital, it was the obama campaign that so far has told the story of bain capital, not mitt romney. and what the obama campaign has said about bain capital has reinforced the same notion about a guy playing with big money who doesn't understand the average lives of average people. as i have said repeatedly on
of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through strength. >> all right. let's talk about the expectations here, karen. the game from both sides has kicked into high gear over the weekend. i want to remind everybody. take a listen. >> president obama's a very, he's a very gifted speaker. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> we'd expected all along governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any other candidate in history. >> and i think for us to raise the expectations, he's got to do something spectacular. those things don't happen in debates anymore that there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused o
romney was. >> i think you're absolutely right on that. this jobs report tomorrow, how might this factor in depending on the information made public? >> right. it was a month ago after the republican convention and after the democratic conventions that republicans were looking to the jobs report to change the subject. now democrats are trying to do the exact same thing. a little note of caution. even though it was a tepid jobs report last time around, that really didn't help mitt romney. if it's a better than expected number, a lot of the commentary is still about last night's debate. >> we'll see what happens in the next 24. thanks, mark. instant polls show mitt romney was the clear winner last night. in a cnn survey they picked romney 67% on to 25%. uncommitted voters polled by cbs picked governor romney 2:1 over the president. how did governor romney do it. past the energy and theatrics we talked about today. ezra kline writes in the "washington post" today, quote, for the most part this is romney's strategy being purposefully vague about the nature of his policies paid off. here's an
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